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The Last Temptation of the GOP >>

01/17/2010

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I am composing this appeal to your considerations, with all due respect for the fact that Conservatism manifests itself in many forms and stripes, and fully aware that no two people will always agree on everything. I tended to shy away from this debate as I’m a cartoonist and feel that the soul of the Conservative Movement should be decided by people with less time on their hands. Politically, I’m a Reagan Conservative, not so much of the Goldwater stripe. Yet in my online discussions, I have noticed a marked increase in anti-war and socially-mute stridency within the Republican Party, as well as the broader Conservative Movement. And while we should be an open party, opening up to leftist-style pacifism which besets our world presence as the cause of extremism, indicting corporation, shrugging off abortion and the 40 million children it has exterminated, and dismissing the institution of marriage and its reverberating effects on society (which run deeper than laws and thicker than blood) has tradeoffs. Accepting all of this does not wave the big, bold colors that differentiate us from the Left. There seem to be two main realms where the disagreement emerges: Islamic terrorism and social issues. Let’s start with the first.

To begin, the underwear bomber and his attempt at mass murder provoked me to answer, as I was shocked to learn what explanations were coming from sectors of conservatism. Dr. Ron Paul appeared on CNN the other day with Ben Stein and Sheila Jackson, stating that Abdulmutallab attacked America because we’re all occupiers or something. Note: Ben Stein’s apoplexy was so stark that he looks as though he was about to utter “Bueller? Bueller?”

 

 

Although Allahpundit was astute to point out that Nigeria and Yemen are not occupied and that Afghanistan isn’t really Abdulmutallab’s concern, this irksome rationalization of terrorism is disturbing, especially when it comes from our side of the spectrum.  And while we can all agree that the Fed should not be printing money like water, needs oversight, and not to mess with Texas…there is a point where I draw the line. And the aforementioned video is it.

The history of Radical Islam has been a rather stormy one, and precedes the United States altogether. Yet if you listened to most on the Left and unfortunately some on the Right, you would think that we alone had kindled this problem. While the Hebrews warred in the early days of their nation to carve out a place in the world (and harbored monotheism, a subversive idea that many pagan nations wanted to squelch), such Jewish wars seemed to be a means to an end; lending and commerce. Yet looking at the history of Islamic conquest, war itself seems to be the end for some interpreters; no doubt the apogee of the Islamic faith in its formative years. Are there peaceful Muslims? Of course. Are there clerics who rail against violence and preach peace? Yes. But if not theologically, then culturally, Arabia and its petulance to surrounding nations were the context surrounding the emergence of the new religion. What separates the situation of Mecca from Jerusalem was that for Mohammed, outward expansion would become a policy from thenceforth and for all time. And it seems that at some point it became the clear and simple goal of the foreign policy of Muslim nations.

The History:

1.    Mohammed’s Conquest of Mecca (628 AD)
2.    Siege of Jerusalem (637 AD): The Umar Caliphate captures Jerusalem in an initially bloodless siege. These “new kids on the block” decide to impose Sharia Law onto a land which is holy to both Christians and Jews, ensnaring a city that was not even mentioned in the Koran and retrofitting it with Arabic regalia. That, of course, is not the modus operandi of occupiers… right?
3.    Dhimmitude: Christians and Jews (people of the book) are unable to own weapons, own horses, give testimony in court, need to apply for special building permits in order to build anything, and routinely pay the jizya (protection tax) in order to continue practicing their faith. In addition, the Ottoman Empire, a minority occupier in the Balkans during the Middle Ages, sends garrisons into towns to collect the oldest children of Christian families to serve in the Janissary slave armies. Massacres were frequent, and the tolerant and non-occupying Muslims put down revolts with a strict vengeance. With such few rights granted to non-Muslims, it would only be a matter of time before the minority became the majority.
4.    The Umayyad Conquest of Spain (711 AD)
5.    The Crusades (1095 AD): Since the capture of Jerusalem, some Islamic rulers begin to stop Christian pilgrims coming from Europe and other regions, leading to bitter resentment between the spheres. To add to that, the Turks (a nomadic people recently converted to Islam) gouge deeply into territories of the Byzantine Empire, which at the time is a storehouse of Western knowledge from Ancient Greece and home to the Hagia Sophia and St. Paul’s ministry. In response, Byzantine Emperor Alexius I appeals to Rome for assistance, thereby triggering the First Crusade. School textbooks seem to downplay this cause.
6.    Sultan Mehmed II (1459 AD): Ottoman conqueror Mehmed II sends envoys to Romanian Prince Vlad Tepes, demanding a large monetary tribute and 500 local boys, to which Vlad responds by nailing the envoys’ turbans to their heads and sending back their bodies. As you might expect, war erupts.  Vlad Tepes leads a successful guerilla campaign against the Ottoman Empire with night raids on enemy camps and incursions into Turkish territory. Mehmed II then assembles nearly 100,000 men to march into Wallachia, Romania. When the Ottoman Army pushes deeper into Romania, their blood runs cold upon discovering literally a forest of 20,000 impaled Ottoman soldiers suspended above the ground on stakes.  Demoralized by unrelenting displays of cruelty and lightning attacks, the Ottomans retreat in horror. While Vlad’s “methods” were unsound, his redounding success with defeating a larger army underscores Islam’s fear of one thing they rarely seem to encounter: retaliation.

Bram Stoker picks up where history leaves off.
 
7.    The Siege of Vienna (1532 AD): Suleiman the Magnificent lays siege to a central European capitol and is rebuffed.

8.    The Barbary Wars (1801-1805 AD): The pirates of the Barbary Coast have long been sinking merchant ships and enslaving coastal populations. The number of Europeans enslaved over the centuries amounts to over 1 million by some estimates. After an expensive and wearisome war with the British Empire, fledgling America is left to its own devices, which includes the defense of its maritime interests. Seeing that the United States has no credible Navy, Congress initially adopts appeasement, allocating monies for tribute to the Mohammedan pirates, but later learns that the cost is far in excess of their allocation. Thomas Jefferson, then diplomat, organizes negotiations with the ambassador from Tripoli, who insists that the Holy Koran permits his people the right to obliterate all the foes of Allah with impunity. Jefferson concludes that negotiations with terrorists are futile. Years later, war erupts between the United States and the Barbary States when Tripoli demands a massive tribute from the newly-inaugurated Jefferson Administration. Jefferson then wheels the swords and guns of the United States onto Tripoli and brings the conflict to a thorough end after some lopsided sea battles abroad. As a sidenote, Jefferson does this without declaring war, since Congress voted to give him authorization to use force (familiar?). I guess a smashing victory bespeaks more intent than declarations.

I’m sorry Mr. Paul. I think you have made gallant overtures towards federal transparency in years past, but on this issue, you’re dead wrong.

Collapse of the Old World:

The European capitals like Paris, London, Berlin, and Luxembourg are slowly being overrun, and the barrio non-integration model of the Left in America as it pertains to immigration seems to demonstrate its own fruition on the old continent. The Paris Riots of 2005 were only a harbinger of things to come, and now, stunningly, Lord Phillips of the British Supreme Court announced that Sharia should gain regional autonomy on European soil in certain smaller matters. In the latter 20th century, Europe made a deal with the devil on refugee policy and integration (likely to normalize their own Mideast interests). And so to our transatlantic counterpart, a shoulder of the West: we will witness your collapse in our lifetimes. We may not notice it, as America’s defenses have eased the dangers of your power drain in the last century. But fall you will.

The point to all this is that radical strains in Islam have existed much longer than the United States, and long before Israel was reestablished as a nation. Even hostile powers have interests and assets on our soil, and we refrain from divesting them where other nations would nationalize in a minute, because we are free and capitalist. So knowing this, obscure claims of military bases here and there do little to explain such widespread hatred, especially given that such nations have often asked for our protection. Isolationists also overlook the aid that we send to the Middle East and the times we have militarily interdicted anti-Muslim pushes in places like Yugoslavia and Bosnia. So the assertion that a base here or involvement there generates terrorism is a canard that ignores our olive branches. Yet all that said, there will come a temptation for conservatives, as Third Party candidates position themselves as isolationists, opportunistically hoping to capitalize on the healthy mistrust by conservatives and the unreasoning pacifism of liberals. But to embrace this perspective makes two horrid mistakes: it denies the history of Islamofacism as an evangelistic, expansionistic, and traditionally unprovoked aggressor. In political terms, it ensures lasting Democrat victory by splitting the Right into disorganized factions, and not differentiating our ideas in stark relief to the Left. The consequences for national security with continued leftist domestic policy could be catastrophic. And yes, I’m fearmongering.

I am a Republican who is quite upset with the past behavior of some so-called "conservatives," such as was made manifest in the NY 23rd District. But as bad as some actors in this party have behaved, I believe in the underlying planks in our platform. Jumping off one horse and onto another while referring to oneself as "generally conservative" is not sufficient enough of a platform to combat fanaticism, especially if it produces the dominion of a party that believes in "Man-Made Disasters." And as much a drubbing as the RNC deserved for its past liberal actions, continuing to savage our party into 2010 is not a winning strategy; you may claim that you’re targeting bad leaders and not the good party planks, but the undecided onlooker may not discern that and just assume that you disdain everything about it. You’ll become the Left’s favorite conservative in no time flat.

Some "alternative" conservatives have perceived the underwear bomber and other terrorist acts as some sort of backlash against occupation and globalism, thereby ignoring history and blaming America for terrorism. Yet they do this while blind to fanaticism’s preeminence during that oh-so-cherished age of America’s national reclusiveness. So pretending that terroristic activity would diminish by contracting our nation inwardly is a farce, and whatever course of action we take, wahabi radicals will always find a grievance to vindicate their cause and rally their disaffected youth (sort of like Al Sharpton, but with C4). Dismissing a nemesis and focusing the argument on dubious claims of empire and past grievance skews morality and is a miscarriage of our moment's urgency.

"I think we're against the hypocrisy of assailing our allies because here and there they cling to a colony, while we engage in a conspiracy of silence and never open our mouths about the millions of people enslaved in the Soviet colonies in the satellite nations." -Ronald Reagan, A Time for Choosing

“In a country where it is now generally understood and proclaimed that Communism is an enemy bound to destroy us, Congress annually deliberates over means of "co-existing" with the Soviet Union.” –Barry Goldwater, The Conscience of a Conservative

Morality in Decline:

Now as to social issues, I believe that mores, tradition, and decency are the fabric that hold societies together, especially where the law in silent. Hurricane Katrina sadly demonstrated the character of a people who felt that nobody was watching them “rescue” television sets. Alexis d’Tocqueville pointed out that liberty blazed from America’s pulpits and paid homage to the goodness of its early inhabitants. The founders (them crazy deists) purchased bibles with congressional funds for distribution to the public. We were and still are a Judeo-Christian nation, both in faith and philosophy. Should the government get into the business of pushing one faith on other people? By no means! God granted humankind free will and the right to choose their respective destinies, and nobody is “too big to fail.” But I am against the intense scrubbing of faith and tradition from all public life.

Since the 60’s, the Democratic Party and the Leftist elements within its ranks have sought to cleanse America of faith, family, and tradition. They believe in the ideal of Plato’s Republic, where we are all common brothers and sisters, the military is our father and the welfare state is our mother. Family and God are the only things that stand in the way of all of this, and it is traditionally why Castro and other dictators sought to expel and attack religion and family, even encouraging children to rat on their parents on command. In a society where rights are conferred by a state -- not God -- and where purpose and meaning are only derived from government, people become fish who do not know that they are wet. Unfortunately, some libertarians conservatives seek to ignore this leftist conspiracy, suggesting that all of these issues will be satisfied if we left it to the states. If this were true, I would be more likely to shrug off the crazies in Vermont and move ahead. But that is not the case. As an example, California did in fact speak out for traditional marriage. Bravo. This may be good enough for the libertarian crowd (many of whom themselves are Christian), but it is not good enough for the radical left that seeks to bring the matter to DC and repeal the Defense of Marriage Act (which protects states from the choices of others), thereby overriding the states all together. This effectively results in either gay marriage nationwide or none, depending on who wins in DC. So while many libertarians seem reluctant to make a federal case of such an issue they may themselves believe in personally, someone else will, and gladly override your states’ rights position altogether given the chance. If you’re not at the dinner, then you are on the menu. The same rule can be applied to abortion or any other social issue. I think of slavery, and how some found it immoral, and others a matter of state’s rights. Some states varied, but eventually the friction between the states grew so hot that it had to be decided as all or nothing, by federal action. Many socially conservative libertarians will face this dilemma as things become all or nothing, and might need to assess what they morally believe on these issues and then stand on that all the way.

Make no mistake, my libertarians of faith: Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings and his ilk are coming to a public school near you. They will do it on the state level, and if that doesn’t work they’ll try another rout until your kids have memorized “powerfisting” and “rimming” on your dime. On another front, it’s a widely accepted norm of this country that the Arts in America are one of the reasons conservatives lag behind and liberals dominate in their stead. Theatre, cinema, literature, paint media, and other high arts set the tone, attitudes, and expectations of generations, and conservatives (be they Republican or Libertarian) cannot shun this aspect of life. To do so is to guarantee diminished relevance for the next century. So although social contours are sloppy variables, liberals achieve their ends by setting trends and planting memes, turning the unimaginably obscene of one generation into the commonplace of another, operating within or without the framework of the law. This is why Scotsman Andrew Fletcher boasted: “Let me write the songs of a nation - I don't care who writes its laws.” Conservatives of all stripes will have to ponder not only the type of naked liberty exercised by the man who blurts “fire” in a crowded theater, but also ask the deeper question appertaining to the content of their nation’s character—and what that nation ends up looking like in years to come. And lastly, if it will even be recognizable at all.

Linking social values to Islam’s meteoric rise, we can observe the fact that Europe has no belief and no nationalism. Just go to Spain’s festivals, and notice that you see 100 Moorish prince costumes and only two lonely knights in the corner. European youth live on the government tit in a postmodern milieu, with a cringingly servile European identity that they are rapidly trading for a robust, proud, Muslim identity. Atheism has existed since the skeptics of Greece, and probably as long as the proposition of faith has been before humankind. At any rate, it is older than Islam and Christianity, being more of a mindset than a belief system. But since the people of Europe live self-centered and pampered lives of statist comfort, devoid of meaning while producing no families… Islam finds its inroads. Fanaticism is a relatively weak force in its own right, as it can be scrutinized and rejected. But it finds success if it is pushing against something much weaker…such as nothing.

Farbeit from Dr. Ron Paul to realize that Arabs spend just as much time condemning our decadence as they do foreign policy in order to sell jihad to younger generations.

Some of my brothers in arms of the libertarian hue nod with me from time to time regarding their unspoken agreement on “the better angels of our nature.” But on the same token they suggest that the situation is hopeless on that front and that some things must be accepted for keeps. I surely hope not, because if we’re at that point, then perhaps they are right. Perhaps there is not much left to save and naught to be done in saving it. If so, then that raises another point as to the new libertarian zeitgeist, and if it is not just the resigned despondency of traditionalists that some things are simply beyond salvage. The statist seems to war against the human nature to live, while the social conservative’s struggle is against the human drive to self-immolate. Yet neither are battles that can be fought forever without a public in sync to their call to arms. Decline is a choice, and great nations seem to die by sputtering madness and suicide as opposed to murder. Sadly, that choice seems to always be a collective one, and there never is an opt-out.

For writing like this and questioning the vogue of certain morally libertine and isolationist waves sweeping the Republican Party, I’m rather certain that both I and my followers will be labeled “neocon” by people who aren’t aware of my stance to unplug the UN, post troops on the US-Mexico Border, pass the Fair Tax, expel Kathleen Parker from our websites, castrate the Federal Reserve, and abolish Social Security and Medicare altogether.

Yup. People call me Arlen Specter. >>


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Tripe... total tripe. Study after study has revealed that Americas interventionist policies are the source of most of the motive for Islamic extremism. Please... do some research. What you are is neocon light, like Huckabee. Fair Tax?? HA! A greater misnomer could not be spoken. How about keep the product of your labor? You want a standing army posted domestically?? Are you crazy? Your whole party is full of big government, lies and delusions. Just like the Democraps. bah. Sell that bs rhetoric to someone who is buying. History and evidence is available for anyone who wants it and it speaks for itself. You could not be more wrong. You need to get on the right side of history and realize that governments and armies are not the solutions to these problems. I'm not scared of Sharia... know why? I have guns and better ideas. Please... get out from behind the skirts of your nanny state sir and seize your independent spirit. The ghost of Jefferson is calling... listen.
by TheHx on 01.21.2010 02:12 AM

Not only is this article "total tripe", but so is the comment calling it so. What you both are feeding on is poisonous propaganda. Islam is what it is, and only a scant number of it's followers will live in it's darkest chambers. What you're both missing is the "game" that's been made of "Look over there!- It's coming this way!" Ron Paul is a thinly veiled counter-weight of the real danger among us: the principles behind the corporations which pay EVERYONE to follow, join, or shut up (or die). If you two intellectuals can't see the forest through the trees, then you have no business declaring your thoughts to the 'masses'. Do something good and find out what/who ARE behind the tripe fed us daily in every possible format- for centuries no less! WAKE UP.
by stienster on 01.21.2010 04:13 AM

you are so right.... Ron Paul only spews the propaganda of the enemy when he repeats the lies about why they want to kill us. If there was no Israel, no Iraq and Afghanistan war, they would STILL be a war with the west and killing Infidels. Not too hard to understand. Those who think we shouldn't be on the offense so they don't have a minute of peace to set up training camps, making sure they are always looking over their shoulder, do not understand that the fight is necessary. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
by Jan Gregory on 01.21.2010 06:19 AM

The ghost of Jefferson is calling.. He had the wisdom to know you had to send troops overseas to deal with the Islamist... something we face today and will be for a very long time. Jefferson deployed most of the infant U.S. Navy (newly formed Marines)to the Mediterranean and sent a column of troops overland from Egypt to Tripoli. The Marine hymn goes, From the Halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli
We fight our country's battles
In the air, on land, and sea.
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean;
We are proud to claim the title
Of United States Marine..

What happens over there affects us over here. We need to defend those unable to fight them which in turn protects Americans and its allies.
by Jan Gregory on 01.21.2010 06:33 AM

How about listening to those who actually live in the Middle East to tell you the truth about weakness and strength. Ron Paul is listening to the enemies of freedom and liberty, not those who are against tyranny.

You can't say you stand for liberty if you follow Ron Paul's foreign policy beliefs. That is what is so disturbing about those who quote the founding fathers as if they know for sure they wouldn't send troops abroad and follow what they call a Campaign For Liberty.

Syrian Liberal: Obama's 'Soft' Approach is Encouraging Terrorism

he pointed an accusatory finger at U.S. President Barack Obama, saying that his softness on terrorism implies weakness, and that this is not an appropriate response to the problem.
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/3906.htm

or

How about a US friendly letter from the Mayor of Tall 'Afar, Iraq to the men and women of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment and their families.

To the lion-hearts who liberated our city from the grasp of terrorists who were beheading men, women and children in the streets for many months.
http://www.mudvillegazette.com/archives/004167.html

or

Iraqi Politicial Tells the Truth-Blessed be America
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=9145258

or

A Former Terrorist Speak Out - Islam and the Israeli - Palestinian conflict
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2wvqDfitLY&feature=youtube_gdata

or

Iraqi MP Iyad Jamal Al-Din on Al-Arabiya TV Criticizes Concept of
Islamic State, Says Iraqis Should Be Grateful to U.S. for Liberating Iraq

Following are excerpts from an interview with Iraqi MP Iyad Jamal Al-Din, which aired on Al-Arabiya TV on December 14, 2007. In it, Al-Din emphasizes the need for a government based on secular law, and warns against using religion as a means to govern modern society. "Our Problem Today Not Only in Iraq, But in All Arab and Islamic Countries is the Duality of the Shari'a and the Law"
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/2496.htm
by Jan Gregory on 01.21.2010 06:48 AM

So why aren't you out impaling Muslims?
by Grace Powers on 01.21.2010 07:26 AM

Drake you are right on!!! Anytime people get so attached to someone that they become irrational I get worried. I like Ron Paul and believe he is right on so many things, but on our defense and security he falls off and he does not distance himself from 9/11 Truthers who have attached to him like leeches. I interviewed a Libertarian candidate the other night and we ended up in a debate about the War on Terrorism and even on Iran, this gentleman thought Iran had a right to a nuclear weapon?! I have taken to asking Independent candidates I interview why they are going this route rather than the one that the grassroots have chosen and that is to take back the GOP. We can look elsewhere if that does not happen in the primaries.
by FreedomsWings on 01.21.2010 08:08 AM

Nice history lesson. Not a very good opinion without knowing all the facts.

Suggestion:

Look at US History dealing with Rogue enemies, Pirates and Terrorist Groups.

With all due respect you apparently know nothing about Ron Paul's Conservative and Constitutional Legislative Push with regard to dealing with Terrorist Groups of 911.

Google our founding fathers prevision "Letters of Marque and Reprisal" this action to be taken is in the US Constitution a real strategic and strong tactical conservative approach to dealing with terrorist groups. Targeting them directly! This was introduced by Ron Paul on Oct. 11, 2001. Ron Paul knew that the only way to truly hit these groups was fighting fire with fire. Never let your enemy know who to trust or where/who YOUR men are...

Rep. Paul is the strongest Conservative leader in dealing DIRECTLY with these rogue enemies!

Congressman Paul's Conservative Legislation:

http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2001/pr101101.htm

This act would possibly have "Conserved" lives and money!


by LibertyPulse.com on 01.21.2010 09:54 AM

Go back to Cartoons.
by Will Berg on 01.21.2010 10:19 AM

On second thought...just looked through some of your cartoons...

nevermind on my last comment
by Will Berg on 01.21.2010 10:24 AM

I have really tired of these arguments.

The only true threat of this great country is ourselves. The only significant loss we suffer will stem from a collapsing economic structure.

The people that are so critical of Ron Paul do not understand what he is trying to do. He is desperately trying to wake us up to the pending gloom this country will face. Our system of government is broke. The simple fact is the people in this country are not willing to pay directly for the actions we take - home and abroad. We will eventually reach so high of a debt level that we will collapse from the weight of it. At that point these discussion you are all engaged in will look pretty damn ridiculous.
by Eric on 01.21.2010 10:40 AM

Jan Gregory - ignorance is not becoming. I have heard your stuff a million times because you are simply reciting the echo chamber.

Do yourself a favor and actually read detail on Jefferson's view of the Barbary war, don't just repeat neo-con talking points. The link I provide goes into plenty of detail on Tripoli and clearly refutes your views.

http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/12/30/the-constitution-is-clear-on-presidential-war-powers/

by Eric on 01.21.2010 11:13 AM

I'll second Will Bergs comments. You're no history professor. I'm quite confident in the Constitution. We need Congress to declare war, and terrorists are best dealt with the letters of marquee and reprisal. A worldwide witch hunt with thousands of innocents caught in the crosshairs is not what will make this world a safer place.

We need a humble foreign policy and secure borders. That means we stop inciting revolts, paying off dictators, and doing the dirty work for multinational conglomerates...look at the big picture.

We can't afford this nasty game much longer anyways...just come home!
by Jesse on 01.21.2010 11:37 AM

If conservatism is concerned with limiting federal spending, then letters of marque and reprisal would have been the most intelligent method of rooting out concrete threats to American security. Maybe we'd have captured bin Laden if we'd have raised the reward to 1 billion dollars. You'd have had his head in a week. (This was Paul's suggestion, as was mentioned in a previous comment.)

Which is a nice transition to nation building. If you think that those people are so backwards and willing to commit violence as a matter of course, how can you possibly have any confidence that the military occupation and rebuilding of Iraq and Afghanistan have a chance at success? The goal of course being a stable and loyal country to the United States (which, if possible, represents western values). It's not gonna happen. You yourself don't think they're capable of it, backwards as they are...

Terrorism will increase the longer we stay there, and it does nothing to stop huge gaps in the security bureacracy of gov't that has shown itself extremely vulnerable time and again. How does bombing Yemen, Pakistan or other countries prevent the Underwear Bomber from boarding without a passport and without the explosives being detected? Where is the causal link between American violence and the prevention of extremism? Your rhetoric and writing is quite good; your thoughts are simply lacking as far as the big picture. You also have no compassion for what living in a territory occupied by foreigners who suspect everyone of extremism feels like. Wait until your family gets blown up by forein occupying forces (who wish to introduce foreign and repugnant values and laws) and then you might understand a bit about extremism: it's a product of circumstances, not religious ideology. Ron Paul has been clear in citing historical examples of non-Muslim extremists, something you completely ignore in your analysis.

We should be focusing on what we can do to ramp up security in the United States without violating the privacy and dignity of our fellow Americans, not bombing those countries until we're broke. If you support the GWOT, then you have a tough time showing it has brought any worthwhile progress.

You really mean to tell me that the current situation was worth 5000 American lives and upwards of 3 trillion dollars? To say that we should end the wars in the middle east is not to say we should stand and let ourselves be hit. That this is always purposely conflated and never taken as a serious alternative to the current disaster has less to do with sensible policy than with saving face and the farce of being tougher than those who propose a "solution" without constant bloodshed.

How many more decades are you planning on insisting that you are right and people like Paul are wrong? He's at least being sensible about the moral, economic and constitutional limits of these disasters; you seem not to want to grasp any of these factors. But you do so to every American's detriment...
by Curtis on 01.21.2010 11:54 AM

I wasn't just using talking points, I actually gave examples of testimony from people who actually believe in liberty who live in the Middle East and do not subscribe to the Ron Paul talking points about what creates terrorism. Those directly affected by the war, welcome and even praise the US for fighting the war on terror.. They are fighting and dying alongside our brave troops.

Also, Pres Bush DID go to Congress and they gave him the authorization, so all your arguments don't hold water. Use of force doesn't mean you drop roses.... you drop bombs.
by Jan Gregory on 01.21.2010 6:44 PM

Well done, Drake. I've always felt Dr. Paul was rather like the boy who cried wolf only then he told all the townspeople to go back to bed and leave the poor wolves alone because if they just don't oppress them, the wolves will go back to the woods and not bother anybody.

Too bad about the sheep, but then who cares about a few sheep?

Thanks for the history lesson. Of course, you'll be challenged by those who buy the Orwellian history that comes out of the universities these days. But if you believe black is white and up is down, then it shows everyone that you are "intellectually curious".

Yup! Curious is the right word. Curiouser and curiouser....

Tom King
by Tom King on 01.21.2010 9:02 PM

Bravo
by Jeff Venable on 01.24.2010 04:30 AM

Who owns the media? Who brainwashes the masses of Americans? Who believes it is ok to kill anyone who is a non-jew? I have never seen so much Political Zionist propaganda in my entire life as the comments typed on this page.
by Jake on 01.27.2010 02:36 AM

You have been pointed in the right direction by many commenters already, so I will try to keep this critique brief. As another poster said, your writing is good, but unfortunately much of the content is inaccurate and painfully ill-informed.

Your attempt to castigate Islam as an inherent threat to the U.S. and the source of our foreign policy problems is wrong on a number of levels. As someone who has lived in the Middle East for a number of years as a Christian American, and who has studied its history and culture--having earned a history degree (from a conservative university) with such an emphasis--I can tell you that your perceptions and account of Islamic history, culture, and religion are blatantly false. Not that you're entirely to blame for your misconceptions, as much effort is made by interventionists, neoconservatives, and Israelophiles to perpetuate the fallacies and biases you expressed.

While I won't get into a detailed critique of why your simplistic narrative of Islamic history paints a very inaccurate picture of the religion and its actual history, I will point out that your attempt to depict the behavior of Islamic empires as unique from those of Western, European, Christian, or Hebrew nations is painfully obtuse. Imperialistic behavior is a common theme throughout all of history, and Islamic states can in no way be held out as any more barbaric and cruel than those of any other religious or cultural orientation. Even a cursory examination of basic world history attests to this. Ironically, the example you mentioned of Muslim nations affording Dhimmi status to Christians and Jews is one of the few bright spots during the common trends of the era--expulsion, forced conversion, massacres, torture, religious bans, etc. were common trademarks of Christian regimes towards Muslims and Jews. I'm sure the thousands of casualties of Christian religious bigotry would have gladly preferred the second class status afforded by many Muslim rulers. Have you heard of the Inquisition? Are you aware of the fact that when the crusaders arrived in Jerusalem, they slaughtered both the Jewish and Muslim populations indiscriminately? I could go on and on, but hopefully you get the point. For every alleged atrocity you cherry pick from the rich tradition of Islamic history, I could put down a hundred worse from other religions and cultures.

Sadly, many Christians today advocate the softer forms of such barbaric policies because of continued religious bigotry and ignorance.

Your attempt to isolate Islam as somehow more prone to barbaric behavior also included a demonstrably false summation of ancient Biblical history. For your ignorant and biased depiction of Islam to hold water, you had to give come up with an entirely inaccurate summation of ancient Biblical history. I recommend that you read the Old Testament and study what really happened. Religious beliefs aside, your arguments that the Hebrews' wars were different than Muhammad's because they were a means to an end--"lending and commerce"--is laughable and could not be further from the truth. Their wars included aggressive attacks where they killed every man, woman, and child of entire societies. Again, your ignorance and convoluted logic is simply astounding.

Your blind bias against Islam is also evident in a number of your other remarks. The irony of your comments would be humorous if it wasn't indicative of a sort of intellectual dishonesty and bigotry. You mention the threat to "a storehouse of Western knowledge from Ancient Greece" and other historic artifacts from the Turks that was part of the pretext for the first crusade. The irony of such a comment is that Europe itself destroyed or lost nearly all its records of the great works of ancient Greek literature, and they were only preserved through the middle Ages for us today thanks to the much richer academic tradition of Islamic empires at the time. Your argument for a pretext for the first crusade also seems to forget the other 5+ crusades, and the shameless, immoral arguments for embarking on them made by oftimes devilish Christian religious leaders.

Were you a truly consistent, intellectually honest conservative, you would recognize that a powerful state is prone to barbarism and atrocities regardless of the religion. While it is true that adherence to shared religious principles of right and wrong establish the bedrock of our society's recognition of natural rights and Natural Law, history has shown that a people of any religion can come to accept a tyrannical, despotic state. Therein lies the irony of your advocacy of using government to impose religion on its citizens--not only does it cause you to violate your own principles of limited government, but you establish a precedent for a majority with different religious beliefs than your own to use such power against you in dictating the beliefs they would have forced on others. Ironically, such advocacy also puts you in the same camp as the more radical, theocracy-minded adherents to Islam that you so love to denigrate.

As for your comments on disregarding the states' rights clauses in our Constitution to mandate religious beliefs since this may be done against us in the future, this argument is short-sided. Such simple thinking somehow forgets the nature of democratic government. Hopefully a realization of this reality will help you realize that the more consistent and moral course of action in pursuit of preserving good values and principles is to respect the rule of law. Again, the opposite would establish a precedent for undermining the very rule of law that would otherwise protect you in your religious beliefs.

Ironically, for all you disparage Muslims, you have in them a committed ally to the importance of the family and adherence to traditional religious values.

Returning to modern history and your view of Muslim people, I honestly recommend that you revisit the history of the recent origins of the Arab and Islamic conflicts with the West. Please--go to the primary sources themselves--read the official documents and declassified files in the archives from the State Department's U.S. Foreign Relations Series regarding the U.S.'s negotiations and efforts to make peace with the countries in the Middle East in the 40's and 50's. Read the translation of Israeli officials' diaries such as that of PM Moshe Sharett. You'll find that the efforts of U.S. diplomats and struggling Arab leaders (in Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, etc.) to establish good relations with the U.S. and maintain peace in the wake of the '48 War were undermined by deliberate, provocative, expansionist actions by the Israeli government, to which we frequently turned a blind eye--costing ourselves our credibility and good relations with the Muslim world. Hard to believe? Start with reading the facts of the Lavon Affair. You'll find that Israeli terrorism against the West in pursuit of their own geopolitical interests has taken place on more than one occasion. The sad truth of the matter is that our hypocritical, dishonest policies have truly been the source Muslim peoples' grievances with the U.S. Having experienced the hospitality, friendship, and kindness of Muslims in ME countries where I lived I can say that your arguments to the contrary are bigoted and false. The small number of radical elements that perhaps would still exist on the margins in absence of our immoral policies are so inconsequential and minimal they are irrelevant to this discussion.

To say that there would be any serious threat to the U.S. from disgruntled Muslim radicals today without our inconsistent, inequitable, interventionist foreign policy over the past 50+ years merely demonstrates ignorance of the facts. Again, please do some reading before sounding off on false neoconservative talking points about U.S. foreign policy. Your comments display a very naïve view of what motivates our foreign policy actions in both the short and long run. You also seem to have a naïve view of what our intervention actually entails for countries throughout the world. A little more research would open your eyes and do you a lot of good. You could start with former CIA Station Chief/National Security Council member John Stockwell's "The CIA's War on the Third World" speech to get a better idea of what our much of our 'help' to other countries has really done. Then you'll be able to start to appreciate the truth of the views of individuals such as Ron Paul who have much greater knowledge of the realities of foreign policy than you do.

The more I hear views like yours the more I realize that the only hope for this country to not go the way of all great empires is for Americans to wake up and listen to those such as Ron Paul who are informed of what's really going on in the world. You should give up your futile hope of a partisan, principle-sacrificing Republican party somehow getting us off the path to train wreck. Even the most ideal domestic economic policies wouldn't salvage our country from our corrupt, statist, and unsustainable foreign policy complex. The only solution is for people to be informed of the truth.
by Nate on 01.27.2010 6:25 PM

Brilliant, the sham of the LP Party, their ultra right mask has been taken off! They do not always act like a close sibling but rather the drunk, high and anti war pro abort and homo loving liberals seem to be a closer relation than us. They want limited gov't but what they really want is also the lack of morality and the law is morality. Fiscally and socially responsible that's us the conservatives, keeping families happy healthy and thriving for a moral and righteous God.
by Red Patriot on 01.31.2010 03:47 AM

i just can't believe it. First of all, EVERYTHING you, me or ANYONE says is an OPINION. The number of times I've read someone in the comments point out a flaw in someones argument only to give a rant on a topic just as wrong... And yes I agree, the article is total tripe. I was reading with some interest (but not agreement) right till the point it started bashing Europe. What the F? What makes you think your so much better? I can tell you one thing, we don't have arguments as heated and frequent as this in Europe, because we don't fuck up as much, but hey that's just another opinion.

History can be used to justify ANYTHING. Live in the present! People really don't let their decisions be guided by what people did hundreds of years ago. Look at your own history and see how much has changed. Using history alone to justify policy just means that you don't have any legitimate justifications at all. Ffs al-qaeda uses history to justify its campaigns.

I think that we can agree that history should not be the only reason for doing something right? After all, the author himself argues more than just past events in promoting his view. So then, would you not say that a terrorist would need to have more reasons to murder than simply "your grandad was a murderer". And if you think Islam or Islamic culture is inherently adverserial or violent, then how come the VAST majority is peacefull? And no, history does not count, because you could use it to portray any major religion (save buddhism) as a violent abomination. Religion may be important, but it might be a little more radicalising to live in absolute poverty or to watch family members be murdered by bombs.
Regardless of what you might think is the reason for radicalism, what do you think is the best way of stopping the threat NOW? Military options can take care of any threat sure, but only if it is taken to the extreme, i.e. if it goes futher than occupation and becoms total domination and control. That is the only way a military option could truly solve the issue. Do you think that is possible, let alone moral? The reason why terrorists attack you (and some of us unfortunately) is because they view us as the enemy, plain and simple. Going in to destroy their fellow countrymen and occupying them is not the answer (or at least should not be the priority.) I know you don't want to hear this, but showing some damn humanity and providing for them in some way would be much easier, MUCH cheaper, and oh so much more effective. Yes, it's difficult to try to implement a policy that won't show immediate results, but at least they will be good results. Look at iraq for example, people are dying by the dozens. But of course, nobody cares, because they're not American. Were there car bombs going off in Iraq every week before the invasion? And for god's sake THERE WERE NO WMDs. Does nobody remember that??? An unjustified, bloody, pointless and expensive war. That's what fear and hate gets you. So please, take a step back, and be open to new ideas. First of all, stop this blind affilitation to a political party, there's people you can agree and disagree with on all sides of the spectrum. Heck, I'd consider myself a liberal and left-winger but I took the time to read (some) of the article, let alone leave this loooooong comment.... which noone has probably read.
by P. Roderick on 08.26.2010 10:48 PM
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